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    • #7178
      Coleman McMurphy
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      I think I’ve only got one more shot with this guy as the previous two formulas have made his symptoms worse. He’s an 40 yr old RA patient. Pain is severe and debilitating. All his joints will hurt and he is unable to work. Pain along entire spine as well. P: left overall weaker than right, L1 relative floating, L2 deep thin wiry, L3 most deficient possibly faint, R1 some tightness rolling up strongly, R2 bigger than left OR its a dong 1/2….not certain there, R3 deep thin slight wiry. Can’t tell if I’m getting a dong pulse reading or hollow guan reading on the right. Tried GZSYZMT and he got worse, and then FJHQT, and got even worse. He tends to be constipated and has a decreased appetite and losing weight as of late, but is already thin. He has relatively high thirst and drinks lots of water. No urinary issues. Pains can be very sharp and worse at night. Getting very little sleep. Abdomen: subcostal tension and pressure pain, very strong bilateral okestsu finding. Do I need to be harmonizing first?

    • #7920
      collincampbell
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      Coleman McMurphy. Good Belgian rules to live by: harmonize first and SHL first. If bowel are sluggish and cun is up what is a formula from both JGYL and SHL that treats pain?

    • #8091
      Coleman McMurphy
      Participant

      BM 1 every 2-3 days, but worse if he has to take opiates which he has been having to do. Typically not too dry and hard, but incomplete.

    • #8092
      Coleman McMurphy
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      ewabartys

    • #8093
      Coleman McMurphy
      Participant

      Or XJZT? But I don’t think of that as harmonizing.

    • #8094
      Coleman McMurphy
      Participant

      That’s a good thought. Here’s a question related to this: if the cun is floating relative to the rest of the positions, but not explicitly floating cause the entire pulse is deeper would that still be a GZ indication?

    • #8095
      collincampbell
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      If the cun is up, it’s up. But there are the JGYL pulses that contradict that.

    • #8096
      collincampbell
      Participant

      But in SHL context, yes

    • #8097
      Coleman McMurphy
      Participant

      In terms of mods i was thinking FL/ZS….FL for the rolling Rt cun and ZS to help move bowels?

    • #8098
      Christoph Ludwig Beer
      Guest

      Why not a CHGZGJT+LGZGT+ZS since the pronounced thirst and the bigger right guan.

    • #8099
      collincampbell
      Participant

      I sometimes try and unfairly avoid it, but CHGZT minus RS/DZ plus LGZGT plus ZS is very, very similar. Coleman McMurphy you could try either.

    • #8100
      Coleman McMurphy
      Participant

      I guess the question then is does this patient need ML. Are we typically thinking ML for damp joint issues?

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